a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
the end of the clues.
what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person seem
to hate new players?
KY coon dog
ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
first.
New participants are always welcome, but before you begin searching
for letterboxes, please take a moment to consider this think of
the effort that goes into carving a stamp, maybe even hand making a
logbook, and then to find a secure spot to hide the box in the
vicinity of a certain area or site. All of that effort spent for no
other reason that to bring some enjoyment into the world.
Be aware of your surroundings; enjoy the view from where you are.
Letterboxes are often place in areas for a certain reason, spend a
moment to consider why the placer may have chosen to share this area
with others, by drawing them here with the lure of a letterbox find.
Survey the area for people who may be watching what you're doing.
Remember, a common activity is "people watching"... someone may be
watching you! Please don't give away the hiding spot to others who
might not share the appreciation of this activity. If you will use
care when you replace the box in it's hiding space, you can be sure
you won't contribute to a box being lost, stolen, or destroyed.
Consider that there would be no letterboxing, if there were no boxes
to find. Missing boxes not only deprive other boxers of the same
sense of enjoyment you just experienced, but the person who created
the box has lost all the time they spent and sadly, may someday
choose to stop placing boxes.
hates new letterboxers?
13 messages in this thread |
Started on 2004-08-09
hates new letterboxers?
From: kycoondog70 (kycoondog70@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 02:34:46 UTC
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: fleurdelislb (fleurdelislb@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 02:45:29 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
wrote:
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
I don't think they hate new "players" at all. It's just trying to
educate newbies a bit that this is meant to be a stealth but
enjoyable hobby. Too many boxes get trashed or go missing, in part
because people re-hide them correctly. A lot of the joy in finding a
box can be discovering a place you never knew existed or enjoying a
beatiful view you've never seen before.
And if I may relay one of the LBMA'ers stories very quickly, a newbie
recently found one of his boxes. They decided that the stamp needed
to be "improved" and they carved on his stamp! Not only that, but
they decided that they had found a better hiding spot for his box and
hid it elsewhere. My point is is that people new to this hobby often
don't know the nuances and the ins & outs of it. It sounds to me like
the person who put the disclaimer at the end of his/her clues was
just trying to educate the newbie a little bit.
Fleur de Lis
http://fleurdelislb.blogspot.com
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
I don't think they hate new "players" at all. It's just trying to
educate newbies a bit that this is meant to be a stealth but
enjoyable hobby. Too many boxes get trashed or go missing, in part
because people re-hide them correctly. A lot of the joy in finding a
box can be discovering a place you never knew existed or enjoying a
beatiful view you've never seen before.
And if I may relay one of the LBMA'ers stories very quickly, a newbie
recently found one of his boxes. They decided that the stamp needed
to be "improved" and they carved on his stamp! Not only that, but
they decided that they had found a better hiding spot for his box and
hid it elsewhere. My point is is that people new to this hobby often
don't know the nuances and the ins & outs of it. It sounds to me like
the person who put the disclaimer at the end of his/her clues was
just trying to educate the newbie a little bit.
Fleur de Lis
http://fleurdelislb.blogspot.com
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: devonpeter (devonpeter@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 02:58:24 UTC
I also will jump in for a moment. One of my biggest fears is that an
article like Time, or Saturday in the Atlanta Journal Constitution
(most of the front page of the living section) Will attract the
wrong people. Imagine if someone in your area thinks its fun to run
around vandalizing these things. I was at the SE Gathering on
Saturday & ran into a couple on the trail looking for a box. We
stopped & were going to exchange with them but they had no stamp,
book or anything. They said they "were bored & read it in the paper
& thought they would come out to see what this was all about." I
think this is a plea to think about this whole thing before you jump
in haphazardly, or a plea to someone not to destroy these things.
Devonpeter
article like Time, or Saturday in the Atlanta Journal Constitution
(most of the front page of the living section) Will attract the
wrong people. Imagine if someone in your area thinks its fun to run
around vandalizing these things. I was at the SE Gathering on
Saturday & ran into a couple on the trail looking for a box. We
stopped & were going to exchange with them but they had no stamp,
book or anything. They said they "were bored & read it in the paper
& thought they would come out to see what this was all about." I
think this is a plea to think about this whole thing before you jump
in haphazardly, or a plea to someone not to destroy these things.
Devonpeter
Re: [LbNA] hates new letterboxers?
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-08 20:17:03 UTC-07:00
You should probably interpret it as a veteran boxer's
attempt to get new boxers off on the right foot -
there is a lot of good advice in there!
If you were to search the archives, you would find
lots of stories about how careless actions by other
boxers have resulted in destroyed, displaced, and lost
boxes (but spend your time in more constructive
research - just believe those stories are there). I
think the placer was just trying to keep those same
sorts of things from happening to their box.
If a boxer truly hated newbies, they would not post
clues where newbies could find them.
Lucy
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attempt to get new boxers off on the right foot -
there is a lot of good advice in there!
If you were to search the archives, you would find
lots of stories about how careless actions by other
boxers have resulted in destroyed, displaced, and lost
boxes (but spend your time in more constructive
research - just believe those stories are there). I
think the placer was just trying to keep those same
sorts of things from happening to their box.
If a boxer truly hated newbies, they would not post
clues where newbies could find them.
Lucy
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Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 04:00:17 UTC
Hi KY coon dog,
I happen to know that this message is not meant to be hostile or to
reject new boxers. It's a request for respect to the box and the
placer who created it. Lately there's been a rash of letterboxes that
have been left exposed, tossed near the hiding spot but not rehidden.
The message is asking for care, and it is also trying to educate
those who are new and who aren't aware of the protocol. That's all it
is. No insult intended. The boxer is really very nice.
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
wrote:
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
I happen to know that this message is not meant to be hostile or to
reject new boxers. It's a request for respect to the box and the
placer who created it. Lately there's been a rash of letterboxes that
have been left exposed, tossed near the hiding spot but not rehidden.
The message is asking for care, and it is also trying to educate
those who are new and who aren't aware of the protocol. That's all it
is. No insult intended. The boxer is really very nice.
catbead
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
wrote:
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
RE: [LbNA] hates new letterboxers?
From: Pam Kleingers (pam@kleingers.net) |
Date: 2004-08-09 05:38:33 UTC-04:00
I stumbled upon letterboxing nearly a year ago because of a magazine
article. I did not take time to careful read the FAQs or to subscribe to
the list and learn first; I read enough to get the basics and set out that
night with the family in tow. I was lucky in that the article I read
emphasized the discretion aspect. Since then, I have become a decent
letterboxed and shudder at some of my earlier errors. I also shudder a bit
when I read some of the posts from some of the new boxers who have come here
because of the most recent article--and wonder about those who do not even
take the time to join a list such as this. What havoc are they wreaking?
I think this note is a gentle wake-up call especially in the wake of an
article that reached so many people and has generated a lot of
interest--and, while some very sincere letterboxers are being introduced to
the hobby, many more will attempt a few boxes then loose interest. These are
the ones less likely to respect the nuances of letterboxing and announce to
everyone on the trail what they are looking for; these are the ones that try
to get large groups involved before they truly understand and have
experienced letterboxing. These are the people who plop down next to the
hiding spot to stamp in, and then casually rehide the box (I actually
thought leaving a corner of the box exposed was a good thing--that it would
make it easier for the next seeker to find the box! I am much better now!)
So, if you are serious about the hobby take this note as intended and
heed any of the points that apply to you. If none do, nod wisely and get
out there and box!
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person seem
> to hate new players?
>
article. I did not take time to careful read the FAQs or to subscribe to
the list and learn first; I read enough to get the basics and set out that
night with the family in tow. I was lucky in that the article I read
emphasized the discretion aspect. Since then, I have become a decent
letterboxed and shudder at some of my earlier errors. I also shudder a bit
when I read some of the posts from some of the new boxers who have come here
because of the most recent article--and wonder about those who do not even
take the time to join a list such as this. What havoc are they wreaking?
I think this note is a gentle wake-up call especially in the wake of an
article that reached so many people and has generated a lot of
interest--and, while some very sincere letterboxers are being introduced to
the hobby, many more will attempt a few boxes then loose interest. These are
the ones less likely to respect the nuances of letterboxing and announce to
everyone on the trail what they are looking for; these are the ones that try
to get large groups involved before they truly understand and have
experienced letterboxing. These are the people who plop down next to the
hiding spot to stamp in, and then casually rehide the box (I actually
thought leaving a corner of the box exposed was a good thing--that it would
make it easier for the next seeker to find the box! I am much better now!)
So, if you are serious about the hobby
heed any of the points that apply to you. If none do, nod wisely and get
out there and box!
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person seem
> to hate new players?
>
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: renfield60060 (renfield60060@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 11:58:48 UTC
It sounds more like frustration and a desire to educate than anything
else. I got interested in Letterboxing through an NPR piece months
ago (winter time I think) and just yesterday found my first box.
But, I don't think everyone waits to make their first stamp, gets on
line to the group, etc.
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a short piece (on
an index card) in letterboxes title: "Welcome New Letterboxes" and
give gentle guidelines about letterboxing.
That would help people who find them accidentally or new people from
the article.
Renfield
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
wrote:
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
> first.
>
> New participants are always welcome, but before you begin searching
> for letterboxes, please take a moment to consider this think of
> the effort that goes into carving a stamp, maybe even hand making a
> logbook, and then to find a secure spot to hide the box in the
> vicinity of a certain area or site. All of that effort spent for no
> other reason that to bring some enjoyment into the world.
>
> Be aware of your surroundings; enjoy the view from where you are.
> Letterboxes are often place in areas for a certain reason, spend a
> moment to consider why the placer may have chosen to share this
area
> with others, by drawing them here with the lure of a letterbox find.
>
> Survey the area for people who may be watching what you're doing.
> Remember, a common activity is "people watching"... someone may be
> watching you! Please don't give away the hiding spot to others who
> might not share the appreciation of this activity. If you will use
> care when you replace the box in it's hiding space, you can be sure
> you won't contribute to a box being lost, stolen, or destroyed.
>
> Consider that there would be no letterboxing, if there were no
boxes
> to find. Missing boxes not only deprive other boxers of the same
> sense of enjoyment you just experienced, but the person who created
> the box has lost all the time they spent and sadly, may someday
> choose to stop placing boxes.
else. I got interested in Letterboxing through an NPR piece months
ago (winter time I think) and just yesterday found my first box.
But, I don't think everyone waits to make their first stamp, gets on
line to the group, etc.
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a short piece (on
an index card) in letterboxes title: "Welcome New Letterboxes" and
give gentle guidelines about letterboxing.
That would help people who find them accidentally or new people from
the article.
Renfield
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
> first.
>
> New participants are always welcome, but before you begin searching
> for letterboxes, please take a moment to consider this think of
> the effort that goes into carving a stamp, maybe even hand making a
> logbook, and then to find a secure spot to hide the box in the
> vicinity of a certain area or site. All of that effort spent for no
> other reason that to bring some enjoyment into the world.
>
> Be aware of your surroundings; enjoy the view from where you are.
> Letterboxes are often place in areas for a certain reason, spend a
> moment to consider why the placer may have chosen to share this
area
> with others, by drawing them here with the lure of a letterbox find.
>
> Survey the area for people who may be watching what you're doing.
> Remember, a common activity is "people watching"... someone may be
> watching you! Please don't give away the hiding spot to others who
> might not share the appreciation of this activity. If you will use
> care when you replace the box in it's hiding space, you can be sure
> you won't contribute to a box being lost, stolen, or destroyed.
>
> Consider that there would be no letterboxing, if there were no
boxes
> to find. Missing boxes not only deprive other boxers of the same
> sense of enjoyment you just experienced, but the person who created
> the box has lost all the time they spent and sadly, may someday
> choose to stop placing boxes.
Re: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: (CountdownTo55@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 08:30:28 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:08:47 AM Central Standard Time,
renfield60060@yahoo.com writes:
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a short piece (on
an index card) in letterboxes title: "Welcome New Letterboxes" and
give gentle guidelines about letterboxing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And maybe also point them to the various discussion groups if they're
interested. If I remember right (which is often in doubt), I don't think the Time
magazine article that I read that got me started in this mentioned any
discussion groups.
And with as much as it seems like everybody just everybody is on the internet
these days, there are still a ton of folks out there that have absolutely no
idea what an email discussion group is and who have never heard the word
yahoogroups, not to mention the other sites out there that have groups. Just when
*I'm* thinkin' that the word yahoogroups will soon be found in the dictionary,
someone looks at me and says "Ya *what* groups? You mean Ya *hoo* as in
Mountain Dew?" Then they crack themselves up with their joke, and when they
settle down, I find out they've never heard of a discussion group.
Pippi L
& BearToes, Joie, Elmer, & Jerk
& The Spirit of Pumpkin da Pugga Rugga
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
renfield60060@yahoo.com writes:
I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a short piece (on
an index card) in letterboxes title: "Welcome New Letterboxes" and
give gentle guidelines about letterboxing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And maybe also point them to the various discussion groups if they're
interested. If I remember right (which is often in doubt), I don't think the Time
magazine article that I read that got me started in this mentioned any
discussion groups.
And with as much as it seems like everybody just everybody is on the internet
these days, there are still a ton of folks out there that have absolutely no
idea what an email discussion group is and who have never heard the word
yahoogroups, not to mention the other sites out there that have groups. Just when
*I'm* thinkin' that the word yahoogroups will soon be found in the dictionary,
someone looks at me and says "Ya *what* groups? You mean Ya *hoo* as in
Mountain Dew?" Then they crack themselves up with their joke, and when they
settle down, I find out they've never heard of a discussion group.
Pippi L
& BearToes, Joie, Elmer, & Jerk
& The Spirit of Pumpkin da Pugga Rugga
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: John (lukejj@telepak.net) |
Date: 2004-08-09 18:33:26 UTC
Looks to be a well-written letter that covers some good points. I
haven't done letterboxing - yet, but I plan to try a few in Natchez,
MS in a few days. However, I am a veteran geocacher (and already have
a personal stamp!). I've seen this same phenomenom happen in
geocaching. An article or tv feature gives publicity to the activity
which attracts many new people - some just curious and others that
stay with it. Unfortunately, along with the influx of newbies (which
means more boxes or caches for us), too often it's a death sentence
for the box featured.
Sure, some may meet their demise because of the publicity, but
overall the activity probably benefits from the increased awareness.
I think this letter is one way too help minimize negative experiences.
Now, who all is going to be watching me make an idiot of myself later
this week looking for my first? :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
wrote:
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
> first.
>
> New participants are always welcome, but before you begin searching
> for letterboxes, please take a moment to consider this think
of
> the effort that goes into carving a stamp, maybe even hand making a
> logbook, and then to find a secure spot to hide the box in the
> vicinity of a certain area or site. All of that effort spent for no
> other reason that to bring some enjoyment into the world.
>
> Be aware of your surroundings; enjoy the view from where you are.
> Letterboxes are often place in areas for a certain reason, spend a
> moment to consider why the placer may have chosen to share this
area
> with others, by drawing them here with the lure of a letterbox find.
>
> Survey the area for people who may be watching what you're doing.
> Remember, a common activity is "people watching"... someone may be
> watching you! Please don't give away the hiding spot to others who
> might not share the appreciation of this activity. If you will use
> care when you replace the box in it's hiding space, you can be sure
> you won't contribute to a box being lost, stolen, or destroyed.
>
> Consider that there would be no letterboxing, if there were no
boxes
> to find. Missing boxes not only deprive other boxers of the same
> sense of enjoyment you just experienced, but the person who created
> the box has lost all the time they spent and sadly, may someday
> choose to stop placing boxes.
haven't done letterboxing - yet, but I plan to try a few in Natchez,
MS in a few days. However, I am a veteran geocacher (and already have
a personal stamp!). I've seen this same phenomenom happen in
geocaching. An article or tv feature gives publicity to the activity
which attracts many new people - some just curious and others that
stay with it. Unfortunately, along with the influx of newbies (which
means more boxes or caches for us), too often it's a death sentence
for the box featured.
Sure, some may meet their demise because of the publicity, but
overall the activity probably benefits from the increased awareness.
I think this letter is one way too help minimize negative experiences.
Now, who all is going to be watching me make an idiot of myself later
this week looking for my first? :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "kycoondog70"
> a friend and i just discovered letterboxing after reading about it
> in TIME magazine. we have both carved ourselves a signature stamp
> and we got some help from this list on where to find that stamp
> mounting tutorial. today i was searching for clues where i am going
> to be for a convention this week and found this strange message at
> the end of the clues.
>
> what do you think? am i being too sensitive or does this person
seem
> to hate new players?
>
> KY coon dog
>
> ATTENTION NEW, OR BEGINNING LETTERBOXERS:
> If you you are new to this activity because of the article in Time
> magazine, or have come to it in some other way please read this
> first.
>
> New participants are always welcome, but before you begin searching
> for letterboxes, please take a moment to consider this think
of
> the effort that goes into carving a stamp, maybe even hand making a
> logbook, and then to find a secure spot to hide the box in the
> vicinity of a certain area or site. All of that effort spent for no
> other reason that to bring some enjoyment into the world.
>
> Be aware of your surroundings; enjoy the view from where you are.
> Letterboxes are often place in areas for a certain reason, spend a
> moment to consider why the placer may have chosen to share this
area
> with others, by drawing them here with the lure of a letterbox find.
>
> Survey the area for people who may be watching what you're doing.
> Remember, a common activity is "people watching"... someone may be
> watching you! Please don't give away the hiding spot to others who
> might not share the appreciation of this activity. If you will use
> care when you replace the box in it's hiding space, you can be sure
> you won't contribute to a box being lost, stolen, or destroyed.
>
> Consider that there would be no letterboxing, if there were no
boxes
> to find. Missing boxes not only deprive other boxers of the same
> sense of enjoyment you just experienced, but the person who created
> the box has lost all the time they spent and sadly, may someday
> choose to stop placing boxes.
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: Cheryl (teammaddawg@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 20:42:10 UTC
Welcome KY coon dog! You'll soon learn what a great group of people
this is, and only the best was meant by the placers of the box. We
tend to be a little possessive of our boxes and want to see them last.
If you would like to get together and go boxing let me know - we're
in SW Ohio and like field trips - especially to box!
Cheryl
Team Mad Dawg
this is, and only the best was meant by the placers of the box. We
tend to be a little possessive of our boxes and want to see them last.
If you would like to get together and go boxing let me know - we're
in SW Ohio and like field trips - especially to box!
Cheryl
Team Mad Dawg
Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: nattybumppolbna (nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 21:35:09 UTC
Did you learn something from it? Good.
If you just review some of the "discussions" on this forum alone
you can see how hot things would get if another letterboxer really
wanted to let you have it. I think the text is quite civil, actually.
You have to remember one thing about this activity. It must
remain below the radar of the rest of the world. We can't turn
Pro. A flood of new letterboxers who do not adapt to the (face it,
rather odd) culture, threaten to ruin things by the simple act of
calling attention to us.
It only takes one bad review to turn us all into outlaws. I can see
the article now: A photo of a Rubbermade container, book
pages, plastic bags, markers and stamps strewn across an
otherwise pristine wooded glen with the headline,
"LITTERBOXERS!"
Natty Bumppo
If you just review some of the "discussions" on this forum alone
you can see how hot things would get if another letterboxer really
wanted to let you have it. I think the text is quite civil, actually.
You have to remember one thing about this activity. It must
remain below the radar of the rest of the world. We can't turn
Pro. A flood of new letterboxers who do not adapt to the (face it,
rather odd) culture, threaten to ruin things by the simple act of
calling attention to us.
It only takes one bad review to turn us all into outlaws. I can see
the article now: A photo of a Rubbermade container, book
pages, plastic bags, markers and stamps strewn across an
otherwise pristine wooded glen with the headline,
"LITTERBOXERS!"
Natty Bumppo
RE: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: John P. Sullivan (suljohn@cox.net) |
Date: 2004-08-09 21:48:03 UTC-04:00
Oh How I Agree !
Yes, there's always a risk when a lot of new people join a small group
that the group's culture, it's way of life, why it exists at all, will
be overwhelmed by the new people and disappear completely.
Look at Gatlinburg, Tenn.
I'm optimistic that the newbies, as I was, will stay for the sheer
enjoyment of finding the box. Of exploring new places, finding new
views, vistas, waterfalls, lakes, and riverbends, not found on national
park maps, or in visitors' centers, and stamping the box.
We just need to keep the integrity of this 'sport'. It's wonderful and
the folks who stay will do so for it's enjoyment.
The note was right on.
Well Done.
Great Bear
Glastonbury, Connecticut
-----Original Message-----
From: nattybumppolbna [mailto:nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:35 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
Did you learn something from it? Good.
If you just review some of the "discussions" on this forum alone
you can see how hot things would get if another letterboxer really
wanted to let you have it. I think the text is quite civil, actually.
You have to remember one thing about this activity. It must
remain below the radar of the rest of the world. We can't turn
Pro. A flood of new letterboxers who do not adapt to the (face it,
rather odd) culture, threaten to ruin things by the simple act of
calling attention to us.
It only takes one bad review to turn us all into outlaws. I can see
the article now: A photo of a Rubbermade container, book
pages, plastic bags, markers and stamps strewn across an
otherwise pristine wooded glen with the headline,
"LITTERBOXERS!"
Natty Bumppo
Yahoo! Groups Links
Yes, there's always a risk when a lot of new people join a small group
that the group's culture, it's way of life, why it exists at all, will
be overwhelmed by the new people and disappear completely.
Look at Gatlinburg, Tenn.
I'm optimistic that the newbies, as I was, will stay for the sheer
enjoyment of finding the box. Of exploring new places, finding new
views, vistas, waterfalls, lakes, and riverbends, not found on national
park maps, or in visitors' centers, and stamping the box.
We just need to keep the integrity of this 'sport'. It's wonderful and
the folks who stay will do so for it's enjoyment.
The note was right on.
Well Done.
Great Bear
Glastonbury, Connecticut
-----Original Message-----
From: nattybumppolbna [mailto:nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:35 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
Did you learn something from it? Good.
If you just review some of the "discussions" on this forum alone
you can see how hot things would get if another letterboxer really
wanted to let you have it. I think the text is quite civil, actually.
You have to remember one thing about this activity. It must
remain below the radar of the rest of the world. We can't turn
Pro. A flood of new letterboxers who do not adapt to the (face it,
rather odd) culture, threaten to ruin things by the simple act of
calling attention to us.
It only takes one bad review to turn us all into outlaws. I can see
the article now: A photo of a Rubbermade container, book
pages, plastic bags, markers and stamps strewn across an
otherwise pristine wooded glen with the headline,
"LITTERBOXERS!"
Natty Bumppo
Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
From: seth mandeville (pokerman117@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-08-09 18:53:43 UTC-07:00
Well said, Great Bear!!!
Seth
Dynamic Duo; N. Providence, RI
"John P. Sullivan"
We just need to keep the integrity of this 'sport'. It's wonderful and
the folks who stay will do so for it's enjoyment.
The note was right on.
Well Done.
Great Bear
Glastonbury, Connecticut
-----Original Message-----
From: nattybumppolbna [mailto:nattybumppolbna@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:35 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: hates new letterboxers?
Did you learn something from it? Good.
If you just review some of the "discussions" on this forum alone
you can see how hot things would get if another letterboxer really
wanted to let you have it. I think the text is quite civil, actually.
You have to remember one thing about this activity. It must
remain below the radar of the rest of the world. We can't turn
Pro. A flood of new letterboxers who do not adapt to the (face it,
rather odd) culture, threaten to ruin things by the simple act of
calling attention to us.
It only takes one bad review to turn us all into outlaws. I can see
the article now: A photo of a Rubbermade container, book
pages, plastic bags, markers and stamps strewn across an
otherwise pristine wooded glen with the headline,
"LITTERBOXERS!"
Natty Bumppo
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